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Last post Sun, Aug 17 2008, 16:32 by Dimitris. 24 replies.
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  •  Thu, Jul 24 2008, 2:49 15987

    Richmond Relay

    FINAL UPDATE 15-08-2008 17:00

    Folks,

    The Richmond Relay takes place tomorrow Saturday August 16th.
    This is the final organisation thread, being updated at intervals.
    With 24 hours to go, and the weather 'reasonable' (F3 Southerlies, rain later) the event is definitely ON
    The AM team should be at the basin at 09:00 and be on the water by 10:00.
    The PM team should be on the riverbank by Richmond Canoe Club at 14:00.

    What's Involved ?

    For those who missed it, this is a re-run of the Gravesend Trip. but going in the other direction, and not so far. The date has been chosen for these special tides:
       LW Shadwell: ~08:30A
       HW Richmond: ~15:30A
       LW Shadwell: ~21:15A (also Sunset)
    
    What we do is to timeshare boats on a trip from Shadwell to Richmond and back, a distance of 30K each way (Gravesend was 40K). This means:
    • The "AM" team paddle from Shadwell (~10:00) to Richmond (~15:00) while the "PM" team make the same journey by train. We meet up on the waterfront in front of Richmond Canoe Club.
    • The "PM" team then paddle the same boats from Richmond back to Shadwell (20:00) while the "AM" team go home by train.
    • Marathoners may elect to go both ways
    We hope to be be joined by some members of Richmond Canoe Club. Like us, they may elect to paddle in either or both directions, but all boats are expected to come from THCC sea kayak fleet, which has been 100% pencil-booked for the day. If you haven't paddled this stretch of river before, here's a brief account of it

    Who's Going ?

    This is a Thames trip, so we operate under the standard River Rules. That means it's basically for 3 stars, but we can take some 2 stars under the "buddy" system, provided the balance is right. You should be fairly confident of covering the distance. To register for this trip, you just reply to this posting below (as most of you already have!) indicating :

    • Direction: Whether you want to paddle AM, PM, Either, or Both
    • The Boat: Either Any or OB (own boat) or a named boat if you have a particular preference

    I'll be consolidating replies into the tables at the bottom as they come in. (For any Richmond Club paddlers not registered on this site, I suggest you post via Ailien). We have some juggling to do to sort out boat-shares, so you can really help by being as 'open' as possible. One way or another, you should end up with a boat-share and a person to swap with at Richmond.

    Booking Other Kit

    Boat bookings will be sorted out via the process below. If you need other kit, then you need to book this separately. Obviously, you can simplify things by arranging to share kit with your boat-share partner. It would also be useful to try any minimise dependency on basin kit (BAs, cags etc) as access arrangements for these always seems to 'stress the relationship'.

    Pack what you would normally take on a Thames day trip, not forgetting food, water, and a sunhat. The PM team should also pack head-torches (though in theory, you will be back before sundown).

    Leaders and Co-ordinators

    This is really just a "long Tuesday night paddle" in flattish water, but we will still have nominal Trip Leaders in each direction.

    Volunteers are also sought for the role of Co-ordinator in each team, to stay in touch with their own team members (for early warning of any Latecomers or "No Shows") and to communicate progress to their opposite number (via texts or calls).

    No Shows on either leg can seriously mess things up ! So if something stops or delays you on the day, please let your coordinator know ! An AM No Show means the paddler waiting at Richmond doesn't get to paddle. A PM No Show leaves us having to tow an empty boat back.

    Timekeeping

    The distance is 30K and is tide-supported both ways, so the initial estimate os 5 hours paddling each way, plus 1 hour 'layover' time at Richmond. However, because of the wind, this may not be an equal 5h + 5h, so do check the site in the last 24 hours for weather-updated timings.

    For the Richmond handover to work well, the AM team obviously need to keep an eye on the clock, so it's advisable to limit stops initially (perhaps just a leg stretch at VAUXHALL). The half-way point is PUTNEY bridge, so this is the ideal place for a break. By here, you will also have enjoyed half the tide benefit, so should have a good idea of your ETA.

    In the event that one paddler is substantially slower than the rest and slipping behind the timings, help in the form of a double in-line tow may be offered. Please accept any such offer with good grace ! This is just a "speed equalisation" device, not an insult, and the load on the 2 helpers is really quite light. To cover this possibility, please would anyone who is comfortable towing arrange to have a towline.

    If there are any No Shows, we may end up having to tow an empty boat. The Trip Leaders will probably therefore want to pack a cockpit cover to make this easier (empty boats under tow tend to turn over and swamp).

    The Consolidated Plan

    (This is the bit I will be regularly updating)

    Individuals Booked

                                 DIRECTION           BOAT                CAN   LEFT  PAIRING
    WHO                          AM/PM/EITHER/BOTH   PREFERENCE          TOW?  HAND? SORTED ?
    Ailien (AM Leader)           Either              OB (DaveT's Orion)  Yes   .     Yes
    TonyR  (AM Co-ord, PM Lead)  BOTH                OB (KS Viking)      Yes   .     Yes
    MikeOR (PM Co-ord)           PM Preferred        OB (DaveT's Orion)  .     .     Yes
    Cliff                        AM Preferred        THCC Aquanaut       .     .     Yes
    Dimitris                     Either              Basin Explorer      .     .     Yes
    Joanna                       Either              Basin Romany        .     .     Yes
    Dan                          AM                  Basin Romany        .     Yes   Yes
    Sarah                        AM                  Basin Explorer      .     .     Yes
    Richard                      AM Preferred        THCC Aquanaut       .     .     Yes
    

    Finalised Boat Shares

    AM                     PM                       BOAT
    Dan                    Joanna                   Basin Romany
    Sarah                  Dimitris                 Basin Explorer
    Ailien                 MikeOR                   OB (DaveT's Orion)
    Cliff                  Richard                  THCC Aquanaut 
    TonyR                  TonyR                    OB (KS Viking)
    

    Checklist For Paddlers

    • Reply to this thread to book your place
    • Monitor the Plan above and negotiate as necessary for a suitable boat, and a boat-share partner.
    • Swap notes with you boat-share partner about any potential kit sharing (paddle, BA, deck...)
    • When resolved, book whatever kit you need between you
    • Monitor this thread for late changes
    • On the day, text your team co-odinator to confirm you're on track (AM 07948-805084, PM 07840 264881)
    • Enjoy it !

    Cheers TonyR

  •  Thu, Jul 24 2008, 11:51 16011 in reply to 15987

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Hi Tony,

    The IoW weekend will be delayed, IoW sea kayak will inform me of a different date.

    I am very much in favour of the 16th/17th of August,  it will be the only weekend I can join.

    As you might know, we now have 5 members who are also a member of Richmond Canoe Club (including our new chairman). It would be a lot of fun to make this relay also a inter-club meet-up (probably not English, but being Dutch, I think I am allowed some creative use of the English language). If we can have some Richmond people joining us both ways, we can get them to try some sea kayaks and show them "our" side of the Thames. 

    On the other hand, we can use the facilities of Richmond Canoe club, which includes some pretty nice showers and a lovely balcony to watch people from.  You could also take the oportunity to check some other facilities they have. Richmond is an absolutely fabulous place to take a better look at your paddling technique, as they have kayak machines in front of a mirror, so you can really see what you are doing. And if you are lucky there will a coach around that can give you advice on how to make your paddling more efficient. Let me know if you are interested, than I can check this out for you.

    And if you fancy a swim, you might also be allowed to use one of their very wobbly racing boats!

    I have asked a couple of people there and some of the Richmond guys were very enthusiastic about the idea. I'll post a similar message on their website to ask who would want to join us.

     Ailien

     

     

  •  Thu, Jul 24 2008, 14:08 16012 in reply to 15987

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Happy to vote for 16 th or 17th, and welcome Ailien's suggestion of a cultural exchange, in seeing the facilities and meeting the paddlers at Richmond.
    O London, see
    Swelling with naval pride, the pride of thee!
    Wide, deep, unsullied Thames, meandering glides,
    and bears thy wealth on mild majestic tides.
  •  Fri, Jul 25 2008, 3:53 16016 in reply to 16012

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    I'm good for all the Saturdays

     

     

  •  Tue, Jul 29 2008, 1:40 16038 in reply to 15987

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Folks,

    As I thought, we can't please everyone - so I suggest we settle on SATURDAY AUGUST 16th - which I know quite a number of people can make (including some who haven't posted). We also have the sea boat fleet already pencil-booked for this date. Nothing stops us doing a re-run in September if there's enough interest.

    Grateful if those who CAN make this date would post their preferences as we did for Gravesend - ie AM/PM/Either/Both/ and Boat Preference if any.

    A number of us are away shortly on the Nort Uist trip (and I'm not back till August 11th) so there won't be any detailed organisation plan put up till quite late. So can can those interested please try and sort out boat shares amongst themselves - so we don't run out of time ?

    Alternatively - perhaps someone could volunteeer to take over the organisation ?:)

    Cheers
    TonyR

  •  Tue, Jul 29 2008, 2:29 16039 in reply to 16038

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Hi Tony,

     that's a great idea. Joanna and I are keen to do this. Sat 16th works fine for us.

    We are easy on AM/PM and would like to paddle the Romany and an Explorer respectively. I will have fitted footrests in the explorer by then.

    Would any one like to paddle those two fine boats for the other leg of the trip?


    Dimitris
  •  Tue, Jul 29 2008, 3:13 16040 in reply to 16039

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Sarah and I would probably happily take the other leg for your boats...
  •  Tue, Jul 29 2008, 3:13 16041 in reply to 16040

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Oh and i think we'd like to do that AM slot
  •  Tue, Jul 29 2008, 12:29 16048 in reply to 16041

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    I'm keen on joining this.  Saturday 16th would be good for me.
  •  Tue, Jul 29 2008, 15:24 16049 in reply to 16048

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Cool I'm in, probably best to use the purple aquanaut I paddled from Gravesend. Slight preference for a morning start but easy.

    Cliff
  •  Wed, Jul 30 2008, 1:42 16050 in reply to 16049

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Dan is correct we would like to do the morning so we can spend teh afternoon sunbathing and picnicing in Richmond Park (anyone else is welcome to join us)  We will share boats with Ionna and Dimitris if that works ok and they are happy to do the afternoon.

    Has anyone cleared access with the Basin etc?  What time start are we looking at?  To save yatesy an early morning we could see if Mike would be happy with another member of the committee temporarily having the keys in which case Dan or I could have them so we can get into the basin.


    Love many, trust few and always paddle your own canoe
  •  Wed, Jul 30 2008, 6:39 16057 in reply to 16050

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Sarah W:

    Has anyone cleared access with the Basin etc?  What time start are we looking at?  To save yatesy an early morning we could see if Mike would be happy with another member of the committee temporarily having the keys in which case Dan or I could have them so we can get into the basin.

    Sarah,

    I'm suggesting departing Shadwell ~10:00, back ~21:00 - so less extreme than last time. Access has not yet been arranged with the basin. Handy if someone could do that while I'm away...

    Regards
    Tony

     

  •  Tue, Aug 05 2008, 5:18 16140 in reply to 15987

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    Happy to fit in as am or pm.
    O London, see
    Swelling with naval pride, the pride of thee!
    Wide, deep, unsullied Thames, meandering glides,
    and bears thy wealth on mild majestic tides.
  •  Mon, Aug 11 2008, 7:18 16221 in reply to 16140

    Re: Dates for Richmond Relay ?

    The plan? I'm not tony and i don't know the plan, but i do know that Aug 16th Is next weekend and we might do to get some boats booked etc So...

    Issues:

    1. Dan uses a left handed paddle. Does anyone planning to go in the PM group use one?

    2. May not have even numbers and not great numbers, are there some people that want to come that aren't on the list?

    3. does everyone have good Thames/Sea experience?

    Booked boats: 

    Boat AM PM
    Basin Romany
    Dan Ionna
    Basin Explorer
    Sarah

    Dimitis

    Potentials

    Tony - assuming own boat. Unsure if he's paddling one way or both ways

    Ailien Rhijnsburger - unknown but probably has boat plans. Guessing paddling the half that tony isn't

    Cliff  - AM preferred  - purple aquanaut preferred

    Martin K - AM or PM

    a Richard (which one??)  no boat or time preference stated


  •  Mon, Aug 11 2008, 7:21 16222 in reply to 16221

    Richmond people joining us?

    Oh, did we have some Richmond club people joining us?
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